‘Seduced By Sai Baba’ Danish TV Documentary
DR Documentary | Seduced By Sai Baba | Aired January 30th 2002
Seduced By Sai Baba Menu (click on a link to go to relevant section):
- Pertaining To “Seduced By Sai Baba” Witness, Alaya Rahm
- Ojvind Kyro, Affidavits And The “Seduced” Video
- Relevant Text To The Seduced By Sai Baba Program:
According to Alexandra Nagel (in her paper “Shiva Shaki”), Alaya Rahm (the prime interviewee on the Secret Swami) claimed that “on two different occasions” Sathya Sai Baba turned his penis into a vagina or made his penis disappear and then reappear. Nagel said that she personally talked to Alaya Rahm (then using the pseudonym “Sam Young”) and she obtained this first-hand testimony from him. Needless to say, nowhere else do we read this incredible (and simply unbelievable) claim from Alaya about Baba making his penis disappear and then reappear. Why not?
The testimonies of Alaya Rahm are sanitized versions of what Alaya actually encountered with Baba. In Alaya’s testimonies, Sathya Sai Baba is depicted as a human, with no paranormal powers, who is forcing Alaya into having sex with him. However, factor in the accounts that Alaya Rahm gave to Alexandra Nagel where Baba literally went from having male genitals to female genitals and things begin to appear quite different. Of course, by adding the information that Alaya gave to Nagel, many would doubt Alaya’s testimonies. Perhaps that’s why it was never mentioned. However, factoring in the miraculous genitalia change, if it were true (and why would Alaya lie about it?), one could most certainly reason that since Baba has the miraculous ability to literally change from one gender to another, his actions, no matter how sexual, cannot be equated with those of a normal human being. This is not making an excuse for what happened to Alaya. It is simply a very valid observation based on the miraculous, physical transformation that Alaya attributed to SSB, but did not discuss in his public testimonies. Some have attributed this “genitalia switch” to Baba being a hermaphrodite. However, if we are to truly believe the accounts made by Alaya, Sathya Sai Baba had a fully functional penis as Alaya claimed he saw it.
As a matter of fact, Keith Ord gave a very compelling sexual encounter with Sathya Sai Baba that Anti-Sai Sites refuse to list in their sexual abuse section. Why? Because Keith Ord talked about Sathya Sai Baba literally morphing his penis into a vagina! Keith Ord specifically said that Baba was not a hermaphrodite, but that Baba literally changed his penis into a vagina. Of course, this claim makes Keith Ord’s alleged sexual encounter with Baba sound crazy, which is why it is not listed under ExBaba’s sexual abuse section. Furthermore, David Bailey accepted Keith Ord’s story, but snipped out the “penis turned vagina” section because Bailey knew it would cast serious doubt on Keith Ord’s credibility. If Keith Ord’s testimony is seen as being unbelievable (because of the “genital switch” story), why is Alaya Rahm’s not seen as being the same?
Consequently, we are presented with the possiblities that either Alaya Rham lied about his experiences or Sathya Sai Baba has the miraculous ability to change his gender at will. Which scenario sounds more plausible?
In “Response To Form Interrogatories” in Alaya Rahm’s self-dismissed lawsuit against the Sathya Sai Baba Society (Form Interrogatory No. 6.3, Set One) Alaya Rahm fully admitted that he had been a daily user of illegal street drugs and alcohol from 1995 - 2005. Consequently, during Alaya Rahm’s “Divine Downfall” and India Today Anti-Sai interviews and during the filming of the BBC Documentary “Secret Swami” and the “Seduced By Sai Baba” Danish Documentary, Alaya Rahm was under the influence of illegal street drugs and alcohol while relating his alleged sexual encounters with Sathya Sai Baba. This crucial information wholly undermines Alaya Rahm’s credibility and irreparably compromises the integrity of his claims. Needless to say, Alaya Rahm’s alcoholism and drug addiction have been purposely suppressed from the general public by Anti-Sai Activists, the Rahm Family and the media (Ref).
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- Alaya Rahm Self-Dissmissed His Lawsuit Against The Sathya Sai Baba Society
- A Scathing Response To Critic’s Article Regarding Alaya Rahm’s Failed Lawsuit
- About Conny Larsson And His Seduced By Sai Baba Testimony
- About Jed Geyerhahn And His Seduced By Sai Baba Testimony
- Text Transcript to Seduced By Sai Baba Documentary: Click Here To View or Save To Disk
It is also important to point out that both Robert Priddy and Hari Sampath, for years, have said that Ojvind Kyro (the Journalist who made the Seduced by Sai Baba Documentary) had 20 affidavits. Despite Ojvind Kyro never disagreeing with either Priddy or Sampath’s very public claims to there being 20 affidavits, Ojvind Kyro recently said he is only willing to verify that he has 10 affidavits. What happened to the other 10? Furthermore, Ojvind Kyro is only willing to discuss the alleged affidavits with lawyers or journalists and will not discuss even basic information about them, nor will he divulge names or content. Consequently, there is no way for the alleged affidavits to be verified as authentic or that they even exist. Click Here to view my affidavits page and see how Ojvind Kyro is clearly an Anti-Sai sympathizer who gave my address and phone number to Anti-Sai Activists.
In the “Seduced” video, Al Rahm said, “The threats, the pressure, the intense responsibility to bring this boy along, to keep him around for seven years as Baba’s plaything.”. This is a clear example of the exaggerations that the Rahm’s have resorted to. The alleged sexual abuse occurred within a time-frame of 1½ years, on 4 trips, from July 1997 - December 1998 (1 trip lasting 1½ months and 3 trips lasting a couple of weeks). Where Al Rahm got the figure of “7 years” is beyond me.
("SAM" former alias for Alaya Rahm) One time he had his robe almost completely off and he tried to have anal sex with me, because he came from behind me and started climbing up on top of me, you know, and being that I’m so much taller than him, in order to keep prevent it from happening, I just stood straight up and didn’t allow him to do anything, you know, and I kind of kept pushing him away and keep him there until ??... I know, I want to talk to you, I want to be with you and I love you. He said, "You don’t love me? You don’t love me?" And I would say, "No, I love you, but I just don’t want to have sexual relations with you."
214 00:29:32:00 00:29:36:07 The boy and his family were showered with jewels and watches.
215 00:29:36:10 00:29:41:05 The family wishes to remain anonymous because they fear the reactions of Sai Baba`s followers.
216 00:29:41:08 00:29:46:21 Today they live in the US Midwest. The father was one of the leaders in the American Sai movement -
217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22 But he broke with the organisation when he discovered the molesting. This is the first time they give their accounts on TV.
("SAM"s father - Al Rahm) We were shocked when we heard it and the both of us just embraced our son at that time and we said, "That’s it. It’s over. It’s finished." And the thing that was most impactful there, was that when we said to him, "Why didn’t you tell us?", and he said, "The greatest fear that I had was that my family would choose SB and I would lose my family." And that he had lived with that fear. And he said, "and that I would be responsible for possibly bringing down an organisation as big as this."
("SAM") The first time I had a personal experience with SB was when I was 16 years old. I went to India alone with some friends in a USA group. I think I was the only person in that group that he gave a personal interview to. I went in there, and he motioned for me to lower my pants. And I did. I was very nervous at the time, yeah. And he waved his hand and turned it over and showed me some oil. And he started to rub it on my testicles and started kissing me. And as he was kissing me, he started kissing me deeply, you know. And I started tensing up and, you know, not understanding what was happening. But it seemed to me as if SB was trying to make my penis erect.
SAM’S FATHER He had told me not to tell anybody about what he had done, that people wouldn’t understand it.
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(COMMENTATOR) the molestations went on for several years. ("SAM") The second time that I went to see SB was in 1997. I went with my whole family and a group of people. I believe we had about 10 people in our group. I don’t remember exactly what happened that first day, but I know that there was physical contact in the personal interview room. I ended up getting about 20 to 21 personal interviews within a month and a half. Then he at one time gave me a watch and I wore it for about a week. And after about the first week of wearing it, the gold started to fade off of the inside and around the sides and I felt it to be kind of strange, because I felt it was like a token of love or a spiritual gift or some sort of a something special, and it was just already it was really cheap, I could tell. The second hand was sometimes moving in different directions, and the gold left and so I asked him in an interview, you know, why it was changing colours and he almost got upset with me for asking a question like that, you know. And he told me then, "I’m going to give you a solid gold watch." And so he made another watch for me. It was solid gold. At the time it looked very gold on the front and the back. And about a week later it was all faded off. It didn’t work very well for very long. But every time we would go back into the personal room, his wants got to be very intimate. And he was constantly having me take out my penis and he would hold it, sometimes put it in his mouth and look at me, and then ask me to do the same thing or push my head down and lift his robe up. And I was gagging and almost about to vomit. And, you know, that was probably the most mentally break down type of thing I've ever done in my life, because if I didn’t feel like at that time, like my life or my family’s happiness or was depending on it, I wouldn’t have done it. But my mentality at that time I felt like it was a life or almost death situation. You know, this was God in human form, but that was my mental program - this is God in human form. How could I deny him what he was trying to make me do? There must be some deeper reason or deeper meaning that what I see."
219 00:34:33:13 00:34:37:18 Sai Baba threatened the boy by saying that his family would not get any more interviews -
220 00:34:37:21 00:34:41:10
If he revealed anything to his parents.
(SAM) But there were several occasions that really made it snap in my mind that it was no longer even possibly a spiritual experience. I was constantly feeling the pressures of the thousands and thousands of people outside the room that all wanted to be in the position that I was in, and who every day almost treated me with anger or resent, you know, because I got so much attention from SB. My feeling, however, was, if you guys only knew what was actually going on back there, you wouldn’t even want to be in my shoes, because it’s not very funny.
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This family was far from being the only one who can tell of sexual abuse.
222 00:35:24:07 00:35:29:04
The police in USA, Germany and France have received formal charges from ex-disciples.
223 00:35:29:07 00:35:33:12 Twenty reports were deposited with the Indian authorities in March 2001.
224 00:35:33:15 00:35:38:04
The court in India has still not decided how it will deal with the formal charges.
225 00:35:38:07 00:35:45:06
("SAM") What really helped me was when I had some conversations with some other people who had had similar experienes. Because I felt, that if they had had experiences as intense, or close to as intense as mine, I could talk to them about it more openly than I could talk to my dad. So we had talked about it, and all the people that I had talked about it were equally confused about it as I was. However, also equally brainwashed and allowing it to continue to take place. So I would say that finally I decided that I was not going to put myself into that position again, because life without SB was going to be a better life."
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When his son at last told him what was going on -
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the father broke all connection with Sai Baba and resigned as leader of a part of the movement in America.
(SAM’S FATHER) I could see the manipulation that had been done. The threats, the pressure, the intense responsibility to bring this boy along, to keep him around for seven years as Baba’s plaything.
229 00:38:53:16 00:38:58:13
The father says that he complained to the highest leader in the organisation in the USA.
(SAM’S FATHER) We told him every single detail. And honestly, I would say that he was genuinely shaken. He made comments like, "Faith has to be restored. Words will not be enough. I hate to think that 25 years of my life had been for nothing, had been a waste. We MUST talk to Baba about this." And he asked us, "Please, please, do not tell anyone about this until we've had a chance to talk to Baba." He said, "I will go, I will be there for his birthday." He was called in and he specifically adressed the situation with our family. Baba was very clear exactly which family it was. He said, "Baba, I need to talk to you about inappropriate action that this family says you've had with their son." Baba’s response was: "Swami is pure." The next day Baba gave his big birthday discourse, and in that discourse he praised this individual, that man who is the head of the organisation, more than he had ever praised anyone else before, saying what an incredible devotee he was, and all that he had done. And a friend of mine who had videotaped it and had it, was approached afterwards by this man. He said, "Oh, did you get that on tape?" He said, "It was the peak of my life." So when he returned and he called me, he said, "I've done what I said I would do. I've kept my word. I spoke to Baba. Baba’s response is: ‘Swami is pure,’ and he said that you would return." And he said, "My heart and my mind are on Swami. You have to do whatever you have to do." And I just ... I felt that he just couldn’t face it.
The testimonies of Alaya Rahm (“Sam Young” was an alias used by Alaya) are listed on three primary media: