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After up to 20 years involvement with Sathya Sai Baba,
not least as the leader of his organisation in Norway, I came to
learn dark secrets about him and his ashrams. This led to further
investigation and my defection from what I now regard as a highly
secretive cult. What I learned about Sathya Sai Baba, his movement
and the extremely subtle kind of brainwashing involved is described
in full on my website at http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/enigma/ Thanks, Robert |
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Sai Baba is a master crook and pedophile.. His
organization has killed many people within his own campus...
He controls politicians in India including the current
'missile man' president Kalam |
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Mr Priddy,
Even though you oppose Sai Baba, why did
you stay with him 20 long years? Why did it take so long to realize
that no one can perform miracles today in this World?
You
and people like Conny Larsson are gullibles of the West who
mistakenly thik Sai Baba is representing the INDIAN culture or
philosophy...
Conny Larsson came out opposing only when Saia
Baba started harrassing / misusing Conny's own son!!!
Several sensible people had exposed Sai Baba in the 70s and
80s... |
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Tescos supermarket online store here in the uk sell a lot
of books about Sai Baba.
Why would one of the biggest
supermarket chains in the UK market books about a Guru...interesting
list. At least one book is written by a former member of the group.
See
http://www.tesco.com/books/frames.htm
you may
have to do a search on this page for Sai Baba but there are quite a
few pages there |
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Sorry I forgot about this posting. The reasons why I
stayed so long with Sathya Sai Baba are very complex and unusual. I
experienced many genuinely paranormal phenomena in this connection,
inexplicable by any known science. I wrote a book about it (Source
of the Dream, published in USA, India & Brazil), and much of
that is still valid, though I was unaware of the things that were
kept so secret that hardly anyone discovers them... and those who do
are mostly powerless to break with this mosy subtle and insidious of
deceits... one which also stands for many things we consider good
(social works, healings etc. etc.) Robert Priddy
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How do they recruit members and what is the age range? |
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The BBC Documentary, Secret Swami, is riddled with many
serious problems. For example, the "GuruBuster", Basava Premanand,
makes a bold assertion that Sathya Sai Baba was a witness to the
murders. Despite having NO evidence to back this up, Tanya Datta and
the BBC Investigators, did not ask for Basava Premanand's
"evidence". Furthermore, the BBC Documentary does not provide us
with Basava Premanand's credentials. Basava Premanand wrote a book
called "Murders in Sai Baba's Bedroom" that provides "evidence"
against SSB. What is the evidence? Newspaper clippings! You can read
about this on my site at: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/Murders/murders-basava-premanand.html
Furthermore, Basava Premanand, being highly scornful on the
profit making at SSB's ashram, charges 300% more to foreigners for
his book, as opposed to the price he charges to non-foreigners!
One of the most persuasive testimonies in the BBC
Documentary is that of Alaya Rahm (also known as Sam Young).
However, The BBC Documenatary does not provide us with the following
facts regarding Alaya Rahm's (Sam Young's) previous testimonies that
directly contradict his testimony on Secret Swami. For example:
The testimonies of Sam Young are listed on three sites: 1)
Divine Downfall, by Mick Brown, October 27th, 2000, in the Daily
Telegraph, UK; 2) Seduced, Danish TV Documentary aired January 30th,
2002; and 3) Secret Swami, BBC Documentary aired June 17th, 2004.
The testimonies of Sam Young are listed on three sites: 1)
Divine Downfall, by Mick Brown, October 27th, 2000, in the Daily
Telegraph, UK; 2) Seduced, Danish TV Documentary aired January 30th,
2002; and 3) Secret Swami, BBC Documentary aired June 17th, 2004.
There are some serious contradictions, in these three
testimonies, that need to be addressed.
Sam Young’s First
Experience: Contradictions:
In Sam Young’s testimony, from
Seduced, Sam Young claims that his first personal experience with
SSB occurred, when he was 16 years old, when he went to see SSB,
alone with some friends in a USA group. His family did not accompany
him during this trip. According to Sam Young’s testimony, on
Seduced, SSB materialized oil and rubbed it on his testicles and
kissed him deeply and it seemed as if SSB was trying to make his
penis erect [Seduced: 217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
This
testimony directly contradicts the testimony that Sam Young gave in
Secret Swami, in which Sam Young said that his first personal
experience with SSB was when his family was with him in 1997 [Secret
Swami: 10.16.47 & 10.18.38]. According to Sam Young, on Secret
Swami, his family was called for an interview (in 1997) and he was
called privately. It was then that SSB materialized oil and rubbed
it on his testicles and kissed him deeply [Secret Swami: 10.18.51].
After the interview, his father, Al, asked Sam what happened in the
private interview. Sam said he could not tell. Al asked if SSB made
oil for him. Sam asked Al how he knew about the oil and Al said that
it had happened to him too. Al accepted the experience as some sort
of healing ritual [Secret Swami: 10.19.13].
The previous two
accounts contradict Sam Young’s testimony, in the Divine Downfall
interview, that he had with Mick Brown. According to the Divine
Downfall interview, "In 1995, Sam had come to his father. In a
private interview, he said, Sai Baba had 'materialised' some oil in
his hand, unbuttoned Sam's trousers and rubbed his genitals. Jeff
(This is Al. Names change for anonymity. For example Sam Young is
Alaya Rahm) told his son he had had a similar experience when he
first met Sai Baba at 18. 'I said to Sam, what did you think about
it? He said he didn't feel there was anything sexual about it; it
was like Sai Baba was doing his job. And I'd kind of had that
experience. A doctor gives a boy an exam. I'd taken it as some kind
of healing.' Thereafter, Sam said nothing about his experiences".
Sam Young makes no mention of SSB kissing him deeply and trying to
make his penis erect (as he claimed in Secret Swami and Seduced). As
a matter of fact, Sam Young told his father that, "he didn’t feel
there was anything sexual about it; it was like Sai Baba was doing
his job".
Sam Young’s Oiling. When did it happen and who was
told: Contradictions:
In the Divine Downfall interview, Sam
Young received an oiling from SSB, in 1995, in a trip he took with a
family friend (Family did not go with Sam on this trip). After
receiving this oiling, Sam Young told his father about it when he
returned to the USA (in 1995).
In Seduced, Sam Young
received an oiling from SSB, when he was 16 years old, in a trip he
took with friends in a USA group (Family did not go with Sam on this
trip). After receiving this oiling, Sam Young told no one, as
directed by SSB. Sam Young went back to see SSB, with his family, in
1997. The family was called for an interview. Sam Young was called
for a private interview but he does "not remember exactly what
happened", but claims that "physical contact" occurred. [Seduced:
217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
In Secret Swami, Sam Young
received an oiling from SSB, in 1997, in a trip he took with his
family [Secret Swami: 10.16.47]. In this family interview (in 1997),
Sam Young received a private interview and had an oiling. SSB kissed
him heavily on the mouth. SSB told him to tell no one. After the
interview, his father, Al, asked Sam what happened in the private
interview. Sam said he could not tell. Al asked if SSB made oil for
him. Sam asked Al how he knew about the oil and Al said that it had
happened to him too. Al accepted the experience as some sort of
healing ritual [Secret Swami: 10.19.13]. This directly contradicts
Sam Young’s Seduced account in which he says, of his 1997 family
interview, "I don’t remember exactly what happened that first day,
but I know that there was physical contact in the personal interview
room" [Seduced: 217 00:29:46:24 00:29:53:22].
Other
Contradictions:
In Sam Young’s testimony on Divine Downfall,
we have a revelation that Sam Young had received about $10,000 in
cash and gifts from SSB. On Secret Swami, Al Rahm said, "I think he
gave him several thousands dollars". Al Rahm "thinks" SSB gave Sam
"several thousand dollars"? Why didn't he ask him? Where did this
figure of $10,000 come from? Especially in light that the Rahm
family claims that the gold watches and diamond rings, that they
received from SSB, were cheap and not worth very much money. There
is no mention of Sam receiving any amount of money on Seduced.
Another contradiction occurs between Sam Young’s testimony
in Divine Downfall and Seduced. In Sam Young’s testimony, on
Seduced, Sam Young claims that he had conversations with "other
people" who had similar experiences. Sam said he could talk more
openly with them than he could with his dad [Seduced: 226
00:36:34:10 00:36:38:15]. However, in Divine Downfall, the "other
people" are two American, teenage students at the Puttparthi
College. In Divine Downfall, Sam Young said that "we didn’t talk
about it too much because of the idea that he (SSB) was omniscient,
that he’d know what we were talking about and what was in our
heads". In Seduced, Sam Young talks to other people (notice he does
not specify the important information that they were American, Sai
Students) and he talks to them openly [Seduced: 226 00:36:34:10
00:36:38:15]. Yet in the second account, on Divine Downfall, they
"didn’t talk about it too much". So, did Sam talk "openly" about it
or "not too much"?
The last contradiction is regarding the
accounts given in Divine Downfall and Secret Swami about how Sam
Young divulged everything that was happening to his parents. In
Divine Downfall, it states, "When Sai Baba attempted to get him to
perform oral sex, Sam walked out for the last time, although it
would be some months before he summoned the nerve to tell his
parents". This same story is repeated in Seduced in which it said
that Sam Young told his father [Seduced: 227 00:38:26:03
00:38:29:06]. However, in Secret Swami, Sam did not tell his
parents. His parents confronted him and that was when he divulged
the story. In Secret Swami, it says, "Al Rahm: We were concerned
about Alaya’s behaviour and the way he was acting and so we decided
we were going to confront him. Well, to my surprise when Alaya said
ok and he started to tell the story, it was so much more than I knew
anything about" [Secret Swami: 10.35.20].
Consequently, the
BBC Documentary, Secret Swami, that is the Holy Grail for those who
are anti-SSB, has been shown to be riddled with inconsistencies,
contradictions and has been poorly researched.
Will Tanya
Datta or David Savill make the necessary inquiries to rectify these
contradictions and supply the general public with the crucial
information they need to better assess this documentary? No one
knows. Contact David Savill at: david.savill@bbc.co.uk and
make your voice heard.
In Seduced, the Denmark Documentary,
another key witness, Jed Geyerhahn, provides two completely
different testimonies as to what happened to him:
Did Jed
Geyerhahn lie? Jed Geyerhahn’s testimony is published on two
different pages on ExBaba.com. One under "Witnesses" and the other
under "Articles" in the Seduced article.
On Jed Geyerhahn's
Witness Account, Jed says, "This brings me to my very questionable
experiences with Sai Baba. On my second trip to Sai Baba I had four
interviews. Each time I saw Baba, his hand would gradually make more
prominant connections to my groin. The first interview was a slight
swipe, the second a definite touch and the third time he grabbed me
and with a very stern face looked me directly in the eye and said
"you are very weak!" Needless to say, he scared and embarassed me. I
was guilt ridden to have sexual passion, though I was a healthy 16
year old boy, a testosterone machine. I was not going to talk to
anyone about the experience. In the final interview he asked me to
take my pants down. I was totally confused, so he took them down for
me. He then made vibhutti and rubbed it on my genitals. On my third
trip, he did the same thing, but rubbed oil on my genitals.
Fortunately, I was never taken advantage of any worse, but I was
humiliated when I realised his true intentions, and I felt I had
really lost an innocence that I would have cherished keeping."
On Jed Geyerhahn's Seduced Account, Jed says, "In 1989 when
I was 15 years old I went to India for three weeks. And on that trip
I had four interviews. And in the third interview he actually asked
me to untie my pants. And he forcibly pulled my pants down and with
his bare hand grabbed my groin and rubbed some oil on the side of my
scrotum. And I went again on the following year, and on that trip
when I was 16 years old, SB called me again for a private interview.
At that point I was even actually more uncomfortable because it
seemed like this had already taken place, there is no reason why it
needed to take place again. But he asked me to take my pants down. I
did and he went on and produced an oily substance and rubbed it on
the side of my scrotum."
Jed Geyerhahn’s Witnesses Account
states that: 1) On his second trip to SSB, he got four interviews
when he was 16 years old; 2) First Interview, Baba swiped his
midsection; Second Interview, a definite touch; Third Interview, a
forcible grab and in the Fourth Interview, SSB took down his pants
and rubbed vibuthi on his genitals; 3) On his third trip, SSB rubbed
oil on his genitals.
Now, if we look at Jed Geyerhahn’s
Seduced Account, we have a different story. 1) On his first trip to
SSB, he got four interviews when he was 15 years old; 2) First
Interview, no account; Second Interview, no account, Third
Interview, he forcible pulled down his pants and rubbed oil on the
side of his scrotum and there are no comments about the Fourth
Interview. 2) On his second trip, when he was 16 years old, SSB
rubbed oil on the side of his scrotum.
Consequently, Jed
Geyerhahn completely contradicts himself in his Witness and Seduced
testimonies. On Jed Geyerhahn’s Witness account, he says he had four
interviews on his second trip to SSB when he was 16. On his Seduced
account, he says he had four interviews on his first trip to SSB
when he was 15. On Jed Geyerhahn’s Witness account, in his fourth
interview, SSB rubbed vibuthi on his genitals. However, on Jed
Geyerhahn’s Seduced account, in his third interview, SSB rubbed oil
on his genitals. In this same account, on Seduced, Jed Geyerhahn
said that it was on his second trip, not his third, when he was 16
years old, when SSB rubbed oil on the side of his scrotum. How can
we believe Jed Geyerhahn when his testimonies completely contradict
each other?
Witness Info: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/Witnesses/exbaba-witnesses.html
The Findings Info: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/Findings/exbaba-findings.html
Online Petition Info: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/
1993
Murders Info: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/Murders/exbaba-murders.html |
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If you want to read about Robert Priddy's 3 year
investigation into the murders that occured in 1993 and how poorly
he actually researched it, view my page at: http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/Murders/murders-robert-priddy.html |
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The whole point of the Sathya Sai Baba murders issue is
that they were never properly investigated, but covered-up and
quashed, as everyone knows. Therefore, attempts to investigate all
the details are bound to reach some dead ends and hypotheses as to
the exact course of events cannot always be tested (yet!). My
investigations have gone further than most (excluding the Central
Bureau of Investigation, India, which never could make its findings
known to the public due to the quashing of the case by Government
order, PM Rao and Home Minister Chavan and the then AP State rulers
being devotees of Sai Baba).
However, I was secretly told
many utterly damaging details by my closest friend in the movement,
a person who was VERY close to Sai Baba - V.K. Narasimhan (deceased)
- that the police were forced into doing the executions by
blackmail, in which Sai Baba's younger brother (Janakiramiah) played
a leading role along with other ashram officials. Before a shocked
V.K. Narasimhan, Home Minister Chavan congratulated Janakiramiah on
his blackmailing role, to which the latter replied "Dead men tell no
tales" and both laughed! I cannot possibly doubt my friend
Narasimhan's confidences to me, and I am willing to swear on this to
on any holy scripture or in any court. All this was done with (the
supposedly omniscient and ompipotent) Sai Baba's passive complicity
from where he hid in the garage to which he had fled! He was never
questioned! A student (under the age of consent) was in his bedroom
at the time and opened the door to the intruders. That boy
subsequently disappeared and was never found for questioning by the
press or official bodies. What was he there for and why was he
spirited away? The entire episode reeks of the blackest crimes, as
anyone who has studied the collected documentation by Basava
Premanand in the 800+ page book 'Murders in Sai Baba's Bedroom' can
read. It took me over two years before I was forced - despite my
long and deep engagement in the positive aspects of Sai Baba's
movement - to draw the inevitable main conclusion. Sai Baba is not
at all what he claims to be.
Then in 2000, the massed evidence
of sexual abuses of young men and boys began to emerge because the
internet made communication between ex-followers possible as never
before. Even then, I ignored it all as slander... but eventually
began to investigate, which I have continued to so for 4 years. A
summary of my results (excluding those too sensitive to publish) is
found at http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/enigma/SaiSex.htm
(Joè Gèrald Morèno has certainly NOT read Premanand's book
as he even got the title wrong in an e-mail to an activist which was
forwarded to me! His criticism of all efforts to investigate further
is ill-informed in the extreme and amount to hair-splitting. Enough
said.) |
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Robert Priddy~ you are wrong again. The title of the book
is "Murders in Sai Baba's Bedroom". It is correctly worded on my
site about Premanand. However, in an email correspondence, I said,
"6 Murders in Sai Baba's Bedroom". Am I wrong? I guess I am, if
Premanand is wrong too! Look at the title of the book that Premanand
(the author of the book) gave at: http://www.indian-skeptic.org/html/bedroom.htm
He says "6 Murders In Sai Baba's Bedrooom" is the title of
the book! No wonder everyone is confused about the real title of the
book!
Get it right already! And Robert Priddy, why don't you
tell everyone how you are plagiarizing my works by stealing my
title, description, keywords, metatags and javascripts verbatim!?
Everyone can take a look for themselves:
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/robin-bob-robert-priddy-priddles.html
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