Reinier Sandt :: Did Nagel and Alleged Sexual Abuse Victims Lie?
Click Here to view a screen capture to Reinier's site where he denies that Alaya Rahm, Keith Ord and the anonymous 15 year old witness, "Neptune", ever claimed that SSB's genitals morphed from male to female or vice versa. Of course, this is an interesting statement. If Reinier is telling the truth, then it is clear that Alaya Rahm (and Alexandra Nagel, who got the information from him), Keith Ord (and Piet van der Eijk, who got the information from him) and Neptune not only all lied, someone created fake testimonies and put them on the internet using an Anti-SSB website.
This puts Reinier in a tenuous position considering that Reinier has either: (1) Approved of the publishing of fake stories (on Anti-SSB websites) for years; (2) Is not telling the truth; or (3) Never read these testimonies to begin with. Any of these scenarios is very troubling.
Alexandra Nagel is an Anti-Sai Activist and has no reason to lie for Sathya Sai Baba. Many Anti-Sai Activists have praised Nagel and her articles. Alexandra Nagel wrote an article entitled "Sai Baba as Shiva-Shakti: a Created Myth? Or?", in which she said that she personally spoke to Alaya Rahm (then using the alias "Sam Young") and he told her he experienced SSB's morphing genitals on two separate occasions.
Click Here to view the testimony of "Neptune", the alleged 15 year old witness, who claimed that, "(He took my hand and pressed it to his crotch. He moved it up and down, side to side, there was absolutely nothing there.) "See? Nothing! Nothing!" (He let go of my hand and snapped his fingers, then again took my hand.) "See? Now I am Shiva!" (this time, my fingers touched a penis.)"
In the original Dutch article (Reinier reads and writes Dutch), written by Piet van der Eijk, entitled "De Wonderdoener", in which Keith Ord claimed that SSB was not a hermaphrodite, but literally changed his genitals! Keith Ord said, in Dutch, "Onverhoeds trok hij mijn broek naar beneden en probeerde hij mij seksueel op te winden. Hij nam mijn hand en legde het op zijn geslachtsorgaan. Toen merkte ik dat Sai Baba tweeslachtig was: niet dat hij half-vrouw half-man was, geen hermafrodiet, nee, van het ene ogenblik op het andere veranderde hij van man in vrouw, compleet met de geslachtsorganen die daarbij horen. Vraag me niet hoe dat kan, maar ik heb het zo ervaren. Het moet ook een soort wonder zijn. Kennelijk leeft Sai Baba toch op een ander niveau dan gewone stervelingen." Translated into English, this reads, "Unexpectedly he took my trousers down and he tried to excite me sexually. He took my hand and placed it on his sexual organ. Then I noticed that Sai Baba was ambiguous: he was not half-woman half-man, not a hermaphrodite, no. From one moment to the other, he changed from a man to a woman completely, with the sexual organs of each. Do not ask me how this is possible, but I have experienced it. It must also be a kind of wonder. Obviously Sai Baba nevertheless lives on another level than ordinary mortals." This claim was repeated again to Alexandra Nagel in which Keith Ord personally told Nagel, "At a certain moment during the last private interview, Sai Baba had seized my friend's hand and made him touch Baba's groin. The first time this was done a penis was felt through the thin fabric of his robe. (It was not a skin to skin contact.) The second time he was invited to touch, he hadn't felt a penis – there was something there that felt like a vagina."
Regarding Tal Brooke, I never claimed that Tal said that SSB morphed his genitals. Tal claimed that SSB was a hermaphrodite based on alleged stories, related to him, about a man named "Patrick", among others. Of course, the only problem with Tal's stories is that if the alleged sexual abuse victims are telling the truth (they claimed seeing SSB's genitals up close), then Tal's alleged witnesses (who have never come forward in 30 years to corroborate his story) were all lying.
This leaves us with 4 possible scenarios: (1) The alleged sexual abuse victims are lying and Tal Brooke is telling the truth (meaning that SSB is a hermaphrodite and cannot morph his genitals); (2) Tal Brooke lied and the alleged sexual abuse victims are telling the truth (meaning that SSB can morph his genitals and is not a hermaphrodite); (3) Both Tal Brooke and the alleged sexual abuse victims are all lying (meaning that SSB is not a hermaphrodite and cannot morph his genitals); (4) Tal Brooke and the alleged sexual abuse victims are all telling the truth (meaning that SSB can change his gender at will and the hermaphrodite stories arose from this alleged miraculous phenomenon). Despite all of these testimonies appearing on hetnet.nl/~exbaba, Reinier has the audacity to say "This is a blatant lie - all these people did not claim any such thing".
Interesting enough, Conny Larsson and Dr. Bhatia (despite alleged, long-term sexual involvement with SSB) never mentioned seeing anything unusual about SSB's genitals and never claimed that SSB could change his gender at will. Similarly Hans De Kraker, Afshin (Said) Khorramshahgol and Jens Sethi never said anything about SSB being a hermaphrodite or changing his gender at will. This implies that Alaya Rahm, "Neptune", Keith Ord and Tal Brooke all lied about it. If SSB is a hermaphrodite, this would imply that Conny Larsson, Dr. Bhatia, Hans De Kraker, Afshin (Said) Khorramshahgol and Jens Sethi all lied (as they claimed to see and feel, up close, SSB's body). Clearly, someone is not telling the truth. The big question is: Who is lying? Someone, somewhere, has fabricated stories against Sathya Sai Baba. |
