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From: reinier_van_der_sandt
Date: Fri Apr 22, 2005  8:58 am
Subject: My answer to Joe Moreno
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Hi there, this is what Joe Moreno has posted on:

http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/Ex-Baba.com/A-VanDerSandt/reinier-van-der-sandt.html

Reinier Van Der Sandt :: Christian, Anti-Sathya-Sai-Baba Activist:

JM: Reinier van der Sandt is the webmaster who owns the ExBaba.com domain.

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RvdS: This is true.

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JM:Reinier van der Sandt has never seen, nor was he ever a follower, of Sathya Sai Baba (according to his own admission at SaiPeitition.net).

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RvdS:This is true

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JM:Why does Reinier van der Sandt take such a keen interest against SSB?

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RvdS:To protect people to become devoted to the child molestor and fake magician Sathya Sai Baba from India !

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JM:Perhaps because Reinier van der Sandt is a Fundamentalist Christian.

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RvdS:What Reinier van der Sandt is or believes is only known by himself and none of Joe (Gerald) Moreno's business.

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JM:On an Amsterdam Forum Reinier van der Sandt tells Rob Oudkerk (in relation to Rob's porn addiction) that settingcaptivesfree.com helped him overcome his own addiction (although Reinier Van Der Sandt does not specifically say what his addiction was: porn, homosexuality, pedophilia or alcohol). Reinier van der Sandt has openly admitted, (Click Here), to looking for child porn sites to see how easy they were to find! Reinier van der Sandt said (yes, this is an actual quote), "I found lots of kiddy porno-sites with very much child porn pics, but..., but... it was impossible for me to watch it for very long, because when I was clicking on an image to enlarge, other pages were popping up so fast on my computer screen, that I could not open such a site, in fact, all kiddy porno sites - as what I have seen of it - have multi pop up techniques, which makes it difficult for the kiddy porno watcher to watch easily..."!

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RvdS:Mr. Joe (Gerald) Moreno picks up a piece out of an extended Yahoo discussion, about the fact if internet kiddy porn could be easily obtained or not, so as a PROBE Reinier van der Sandt went there TO SEE IF THIS WAS POSSIBLE, TO OBTAIN CHILD PORN, AND NOT AS A CUSTOMER !!! clearly stated on YAHOO that:

- Internet kiddy porno can be obtained, I have to correct myself on what I was previously writing on this board, I have been looking for kiddy porn on the internet - NOT AS A CUSTOMER, BUT BECAUSE I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHETHER ONE CAN OBTAIN EASILY FILTHY KIDDIE PORNO!!! - so mr. Joe (Gerald) Moreno is only trying to make a heavy storm out of it !!! Just look at what he is writing now:

JM:Why would Reinier van der Sandt want to peruse any porn site and enlarge thumbnail pictures of children being sexually abused? As if this isn't disgusting enough, R.V.D. Sandt says, "Only in the opening pages I saw some kiddy porn, when I wanted to continue and see more, I had to suscribe and/or pay." These are the type of sexually focused people who hurl insults at Sathya Sai Baba!

RvdS: So now you see what Joe (Gerald) Moreno is doing, giving a totally different view of what Reinier van der Sandt was making clear in a YAHOO discussion, where he was trying to make clear something about the FILTHY CHILD PORN ON THE ITERNET, and so Joe (Gerald) Moreno MISUSES my words and then unfairly writes: These are the type of sexually focused people etc...

JM: Settingcaptivesfree.com is a Fundamentalist Christian site that requires one to register for a course to overcome one's addiction. Registrants must accept their Doctrinal Statement of Faith as part of their "therapy". Their Doctrinal Statement of Faith advocates for the literal and 100% inerrancy of the Bible, all beings are sinful from conception, non-believers are to be "avoided", "accursed",
and "should not be welcomed into one's house", the Devil is the cause of addiction, and where "Heaven is the final destiny of every believer and hell the final destiny of every unbeliever". Consequently, it is intriquing that a Fundamentalist Christian has registered the ExBaba.com domain against Sathya Sai Baba despite never having seen or followed SSB. Reinier Van Der Sandt has also authored 2 articles against Sathya Sai Baba entitled: 1) "Sai Baba is detrimental to the gospel of Jesus Christ" 2) "Second letter to Cardinal Simonis".

RvdS: Moreno's conclusions and deductions are just HIS words, he is just guessing and cooking his own meal, nevertheless remains wide open and CLEAR that Sai Baba is a proven SEXUAL ABUSER, FINANCIAL and a SPIRITUAL FRAUD, what does his words change to THAT ???

Nothing....

And further: read BELOW what Joe (Gerald) Moreno is trying to do now, Mr Joe (Gerald) (Sherlock Holmes) Moreno is 'cleverly' performing his private investigations on Reinier van der Sandt, but Reinier van der Sandt has found out info about Lisa G. De Witt too, because in our Yahoo discussions Lisa De Witt was always trying to hide HER ID when Reinier van der Sandt openly gave his full name and adress on YAHOO GROUP SATHYASAIBABA2 to show that he wanted to discuss with an OPEN IDENTITY, but Lisa De Witt chose to remain hidden! Ok... ok... nobody is forced to give his or her's full ID on YAHOO, but by not doing so, I think Lisa De Witt's words remain without FAIRNESS, she just is just CURSING and YELLING, safely hidden behind her CONSCIENTIOUSOBJECTOR2000 ID, so that is why I have taken the effort to unmask her, just to try to get her in the open.

And let us now follow Joe (Gerald) Moreno words:

JM: Van Der Sandt, Reinier :: Anonymous Attacks:

Just recently, an anonymous person wrote an article for ExBaba.com, attacking anonymous people! Click Here to view my response to this amusing article.

Lisa DeWitt emailed me about an anonymous site attacking me on Tripod.com, that used my full name in the domain. After doing some preliminary research, I found that this anonymous site was created by Reinier Van Der Sandt. First, there was a site created against Lisa DeWitt at finddewittinthepizza.tripod.com. This site was deleted, in its entirety, by Tripod.com, for violating their terms and conditions. Then, another site was created attacking me at joègèraldmorèno.tripod.com. Whomever made the attack page against Lisa DeWitt, made the attack page against me, as the title and metatags, from DeWitt's site, were left intact on mine (verbatim)!

Click Here to view a post made in a Yahoo Forum about these pages. It was posted by a person using the name finddewittinthepizza. A simple check of the IP (145.53.1.234) revealed that it resolved to adsl-surfen.hetnet.nl. The domain that ExBaba.com connects to, is: home.hetnet.nl/~ex-baba! Reinier Van Der Sandt lives in the Nederlands (nl).

Reinier Van Der Sandt is known to have used the name "end_of_baba". Click Here to see how the IP for end_of_baba is the same as the IP for finddewittinthepizza's. Click Here to see how rvdsandt2003 has the very same IP as end_of_baba and finddewittinthepizza. As if this isn't enough, Click Here to see how webmasterexbabacom has the very same ip as end_of_baba, finddewittinthepizza and rvdsandt2003. This conclusively proves that Reinier Van Der Sandt anonymously made the attack pages against Lisa DeWitt and myself.

RvdS: Allright, you win, Joe (Gerald) Moreno is right... I have made these pages, and Joe is right, all the YAHOO ID's and the IP are mine, I use them to show my view on the truth, but I will change this, in future I will be only using my name on these sites and the different ID's will be deleted by me, ok?

In the mean time, I will continue my work as webmanager of www.exbaba.com because I still think - and that is where all this is about - that Sathya Sai Baba from India is a man, who has done things that brought a great deal of people in severe trouble, financially, spiritually and mentally, the expose of Sai Baba is a MUST to prevent gullible people to get devoted to a fake avatar.






 
  
  
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