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From: Visvarupa (October 2nd 2004)
Subject: About JuST
To: Rero/Robert Priddy

Although I respect the many diverse experiences about Sathya Sai Baba, I feel, that, in all honesty, that vile, hateful and vitriolic attacks only aid in undermining the credibility of those who feel they have been legitimately abused. Those who are Anti-Sai have demanded truthfulness, honesty and sincerity from the Sai Organization and I think it is about time the same be demanded from the Anti-Sai movement and activists. To show how the Anti-Sai movement is losing all crediblity by giving in to hateful propaganda and condescending to new lows, I have created the following page about JuST (Just Seekers of Truth) who have started an Online Petition that all Anti-Sai activists seem to think is bona fide: link It’s time everyone start thinking about the effects of approaching the accusations against Sai with hate, anger and bitterness. It is undermining your cause and suggesting that anger, rather than genuine grievances, are driving this Anti-Sai Campaign.

 

RESPONSE FROM ROBERT PRIDDY

 

From: Rero/Robert Priddy (October 2nd 2004)
Subject: Re: About JuST
To: Visvarupa

It is not hate, anger and bitterness that is the driving force. That is just parroting Sai Baba’s doctrine, which he does not adhere to himself. We have made no vile or vitriolic attacks. Vileness comes when people do not take any notice or have any compassion for the victims of his massive decades-long sex abuse (including many minors). THAT is what is VILE! And many of his discourses merit the term ’vitriolic’, or has that slipped your attention? He is down on everyone and has lately taken to calling people demonic and Judases... don’t you know (Xmas 2000 discourse and others later on). We do not descend to that level. It is conscience and justice, protection of the vulnerable that moves us... and the consequent relentless determination to make the truth know, which we KNOW to be the truth, because we also personally KNOW sexually abused devotees and they are behind us 100%”! So your criticism of the Petition is a waste of your time... and the Petition proves once and for all that we are no “handful of disgruntled devotees”. It is an active body working all the time on key people everywhere. Many of us have been founder members from ages back and we have been the driving force in the organisation... and not least in making donations and sacrifices of all our time and energy. NOW we intend to the public service of warning everyone... especially all governments, NGOs, ambassadors, UN organisations, lawmakers, police bodies etc. etc. (which we are doing as a group with great effect). You probably did not see the 1 hour BBC documentary “Secret Swami” when BBC World sent it to over 250 countries on Sept. 25, because the fanatical and corrupted Sai devotees in your imperious and already disreputable government cut the power for the areas where TV stations were about to send it!. This will not stop it being seen all over India in due course, so you will get your chance. As the politicians knew (with their big stakes in it all) no one with any decency can stand up and defend Sai Baba after the testimony there and what is shown beyond all human doubt on that film, including the faked lingodbhava (so CLEARLY shown for a fake). The diverse experiences about Sai Baba are of no concern to us - we have all had many such. But it is the specific criminal acts of Sai Baba himself which we intend to let the world know about. I can assure you that we get feedback en masse from people who say the recognise the quality of our documentation, the consistency of our viewpoints, tthe balance in our language and the viability of our criticism both of the many untruths that are seen even in Sai discourse, but also the tremendous manipulation of people with predictions in interviews, fraufdulent “materialisations” seen by many (including over 100 long-term very self-sacrificing and hard seva-working office-bearers who have left Sai Baba. You can make as many web pages as you want, we are not intereted in even seeing them and nothing you do will ever stop us. So you want to stop us ‘undermining our cause’ - this just proves how hypocritical you are, because what you evidently want is for us to stop all criticism of the lost cause you support.

 

RESPONSE TO ROBERT PRIDDY

 

From: Visvarupa (October 2nd 2004)
Subject: About JuST
To: Rero/Robert Priddy

Thank you for your email Rero. You said, “It is not hate, anger and bitterness that is the driving force.” Your email speaks to the contrary. If it is true that “hate, anger and bitterness” are not the driving force, then you have yet to explain to me why JuST has created an Online Petition that allows ONLY hateful, angry and bitter posts that CANNOT be validated in any way (any Pro-Sai posts are deleted). As a matter of fact, I have told you to test the truthfulness of my statement yourself and make multiple entries to the Online Petition using false names and false posts and see for yourself how “just, truthful and honest” this bogus-petition process truly is. Everyone will soon see that they can do this. And everyone will see the inherent dishonesty of this petition.

Furthermore, you said, “Petition proves once and for all that we are no ’handful of disgruntled devotees’.”~ I have actually proved that it IS true that you ARE a handful (figuratively speaking, of course) of disgruntled devotees. In the four years the petition has been on the internet, being posted on every single anti-Sai site there is~ there are ONLY 257 signatures from devotees (and that is if the signatures are actually valid, which you nor anyone else can prove).

So, if the petition is truly valid, please send me the verifying documentation. That would help liberate your claims that the petition is valid. I know my friend and I have made no less than 5 submissions. How valid is that?

Having said this, keep holding on to your hope that this Online Petition will redeem you. It won’t. And I never said to stop all criticism of Sai. As a matter of fact, I actually encourage JuST to continue it’s critcism, but along legal and verifiable means. I am 100% for investigating and making just criticisms.

Rero, if you want to see hypocrisy in action, you need look no further than a mirror. First of all, you are saying that criticism of Sai is valid. Then you say that criticism of JuST is invalid. You cannot have it both ways, unfortunately. That you are calling me “hypocritical” because I am making valid criticisms of JuST’s peititions, you are placing yourself in a position that is beyond reproach. Something you condemn with Sai and the Sai Organization! THAT, is hypocrisy. And that, Rero, is the point.

And one last point, despite the Online Petition being online for 4 years, how many people from “Governments, NPO’s, Dignitaries, Lawmakers, Police, UN” have submitted a verifiable signature? If you can tell me of any, please send their name so I can verify it. Thank you.

Peace.
~Joe

 

RESPONSE FROM ROBERT PRIDDY

 

From: Rero/Robert Priddy (October 2nd 2004)
Subject: Re: About JuST
To: Visvarupa

You do not deserve a reply because you are an unconsciounable person.Hypocrisy is all in your court, and you KNOW it. I do not need to prove anything to you, Look at the BBC documentary. You can look in the pedophile mirror Sai Baba and see yourself, its your choice.You are blocked from my server forthwith.

 

RESPONSE TO ROBERT PRIDDY

 

From: Visvarupa (October 4th 2004)
Subject: Re: A reply to your allegations
To: Robert Priddy

Robert Priddy, thank you for your email. However (contrary to you assertion), your email was not a response to my allegations, as my allegations were about the dishonesty of the online petition at SaiPetition.net (Started by JuST, of which you are one of the signatories). My allegations have nothing to do with sexual abuse issues you continue to raise. Please keep that in mind. You did not provide me with any answers to the issues regarding the inherent dishonesty of the online petition. Why are you refusing to give me direct answers regarding my allegations against SaiPetition.net?

It saddens me that I, an ordinary person, have to remind JuST, about it’s accusations against the Sai Organization for, “not replying to emails addressed to them by people with critical questions or complaints...criticisms that are neither addressed nor refuted, but suppressed...when answers are actually forthcoming, they are usually either evasive, irrelevant or direct the questioner to carry out self-examination, etc.”. That you, a signatory of JuST, refuse to address my criticisms, that are “neither refuted, but suppressed”...and the fact that when “answers are actually forthcoming” (as seen in your email to me), the answer is “evasive and irrelevant”, suggests that JuST is neither just, fair nor true to their word.

In all honesty, I have been very clear in my allegations about SaiPetition.net. Despite the clarity of my valid concerns, you, and everyone else I have spoken to, have refused to give me any answers. JuST has accused the Sai Organization of “ignoring and failing to give answers”. It is noteworthy to see that you, a member of JuST, is following in the same footsteps of those you accuse of such dishonest behavior.

Once again, I am asking that you please address the concerns and issues that I have raised on my formal, open appeal to JuST located at: http://www.petitiononline.com/unJust/petition.html And once again, I remind you that my concerns have nothing to do with the alleged acts of sexual impropriety alleged against Sathya Sai Baba. As I have said before, I am 100% for investigating the claims made against Sathya Sai Baba as long as they are along legal and honest means. This petition, at SaiPetition.net, is dishonest, insincere and misleading to the general public, as the general public is being mislead into thinking this is a legal and genuine petition, which it is not. This is why I am writing you.

Looking forward to your kind reply regarding this issue.

Sincerely,

Joe

 

JULY 2005 - EMAIL TO ROBERT PRIDDY

 

From: Joe (July 24th 2005)
Subject: Remove Fake Name:
To: Robert Priddy

Dear Mr. Priddles,

I wanted to bring to your attention that you have published a fake name on your “Ex-Office Bearers” site, located at:

http://home.no.net/anir/Sai/saiorg/EX-OFFICE%20BEARERS.htm

If you had only cared to read my site a little more thoroughly, you would have noticed that I clearly stated that “Joe Apodaca” was one of several fake names I used to expose the inherent dishonesty in the submission policy at SaiPetition.net. I even provided a screen capture to these fake names (which has been on my site since November 2004)!

Check for yourself:
http://www.saisathyasai.com/baba/sathya-sai-baba-and-petition-saipetitionnet.html

Although I used various derivatives of my name ‘Joe’ (2 of which were deleted from SaiPetition.net), I did not lie about knowing someone who died at Sathya Sai Baba’s Ashram. Michael Oliver was a very good friend of mine (his parents live 50 miles away from me). I was amazed that you met him (I read about it in your book). He never mentioned your name to me. Not even once.

At any rate, it makes one wonder why you would publish someone’s name, and a comment they made, without caring to verify their identity or their claim. This nicely makes my case that the signatures on SaiPetition.net are not verified (I happened to use a fake email as well). It also makes my case that Anti-Sai Activists (like yourself) disperse information ‘willy-nilly’, caring less for factual integrity and caring more for negative content.

Consequently, to save yourself further embarrassment, I suggest you make the necessary correction immediately. Although I must tell you that I have already screen captured the page and saved the cache. Maybe I can write an article, like the one you did with the Sai Organisation and the Westminster Cathedral? After all, you have such a fervent dedication to the truth, I am sure you wouldn’t mind if I applied the same standard to you that you apply to others.

Have a nice day.

Sincerely,

Joe Moreno

 

ROBERT PRIDDY - IN CONCLUSION

 

In Conclusion, if Robert Priddy responds to all genuine and relevant inquiries regarding the inherent dishonesty of the Sai Petition as he did with me, I have more doubts than I did before regarding the veracity and sincerity of JuST and it’s signatories. If Robert Priddy has no concern about the use and abuse of an Online Petition that he signed, promotes and endorses, yet has concerns about the abuse of Sathya Sai Baba, I cannot help to wonder if his concerns are superficial, biased and exaggerated. Sadly enough, my original comment of: “...suggesting that anger, rather than genuine grievances, are driving this Anti-Sai Campaign”, seems to be true.