Zimnicci Twins: "Tomasza Zimnickiego" a.k.a. "Tomek Zimnicki" & "Sebastian Zimnickiego" a.k.a. "Sebastian Zimnicki" From Poland And A Startling Confession
Just recently, I received the following emails from someone calling himself "Ramana":
Name : Ramana Email : ramana@o2.pl Gender : Male Location : Poland IP : 217.153.170.147 Hostname : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; pl-PL; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050919 Firefox/1.0.7 Comment About : Suggestions Date/Time : Sunday, 25 September 2005 --- 13:29:46 PM Hi I read your web site . IS very good, really very good. Only you can write on the top this website that this is good website about sai baba, because I was thinking that this is again bad website like exbaba com. Because when you on your website on first are clear to see names like Conny Larsson,Al , Sam Young etc, So this can mean that this web site is anty sai baba, So please give or put some statment that this web site is good. And Can I help u some how with this site? Ramana
Name : Ramana Email : ramana@o2.pl Gender : Male Location : poland IP :83.22.146.154 Hostname : dzi154.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl Comment About : Comments Date/Time : Wednesday, 02 November 2005 --- 11:09:26 AM Hi I sent to you few weeks ago email and I dont have time to replay you, Im sorry. Now Im again In Poland so I have time to write. I wanna share with you about Conny Larsson,well I knew him very well, I and my brother used it organizeted for Conny Larsson teaching meditation courses in whole Poland for Sai Devotees. So This was during 1997 till 1999. We were very close friends with Conny, To make this story short I want inform you that Conny is good actor and he tell all time untruth storys about his interviews, when he talked to people about Sai Baba and his interviews he all time tell different storys, he said something diffrent in 1998 and year after he said this same interview diffrent. He lies all time. I belived that Conny had maybe interiviews during 1980 till 83 and since that time he made up other interviews. So he got last interview I think in 1999.In this interview 1999 I belived him because he had witness. When he came to Poland in September 1999 he said that Baba rape him many times and Baba is fraud. We were shocked, he said that he is now ex baba devotee. Also he wanted forses us to tell that Sai Baba rape even me and my brother! We said Why i should lie? HE replay because this is game, this demon sai baba must bit. HE said- tell people in sai movemnt in poland that sai rape you-,I said NO I will not lie! Conny said I will pay you money only say that sai baba make sex with you. I dont even tell that this was our last meeting with Conny. As you see Conny is.. I dont know little crazy? Also I met Alayer In India 1999.Even in 3 august 1999 we were sitting in same plane (in this same sitts) to Bombay from Putapartii. We were also good friends because he know Conny Larsson very well, Alayer speak about Baba in good way, he all time said that he love Baba etc. BUt when HE came back to USA he spoke with Conny in august 1999 he decided left Baba as Conny do. Maybe Conny paid him like he wanted paid us? Ramana from Poland Sorry for my broken english
This account is accurate in many ways. First, it is well known that Conny Larsson exaggerated his accounts with Sathya Sai Baba. This was well known to devotees and even to former devotees (like Greg Gerson). Also, I heard several independent accounts that Alaya Rahm was at Puttaparthi in July/August of 1999 (just one month before his defection from SSB and 7/8 months later than the date given by the Rahms). Conny Larsson and The Rahms were very good friends and Alaya even spent a couple of weeks with Conny Larsson in his country. Up until Alaya's defection, Alaya only had praise for SSB and showed much devotion. Conny could clearly fund whatever agenda he sought because he divulged, in a talk he gave in 1998 in the USA, that he is a multi-millionaire (Reference).
However, there are several problems with "Ramana's" online behavior. First of all, after researching the name "Ramana" and the email "ramana@o2.pl", I came across 7 entries on the ExBaba Guestbook that listed this name, one giving the same email the "Ramana" used to email me with: Reference (one will notice the broken English). There is also a signature in the ExBaba Guestbook from a person using the name "Sebastian". I also found the email: ramana@o2.pl under the name "Sebastian" (Reference).
Invariably, this lead to more and more information. This is what I now know:
Tomasz and Sebastian
Zimniccy are twin brothers from Poland who often referred to themselves as the "Pandava Brothers", or as "Lakshmana and Satrugna". The Zimnicki Twins were ardent devotees of Sathya Sai Baba and even claimed that vibuthi manifested from the Sai photos in their house. After Conny Larsson defected from the Sai Movement, Larsson also convinced the Zimnicki Twins to defect (which they did). For several years, the Zimnicki Twins raised a huge fuss about SSB in Poland. In later years, however, the Zimnicki Twins sincerely repented before Polish Sai Devotees and accepted Sathya Sai Baba once again. They traveled to India in 2003 (after defecting in 1999) and received interviews and blessings for their Pro-Sai website directly from Sathya Sai Baba. Sebastian Zimnicki is well known for his wavering mind and changing positions regarding Sathya Sai Baba. Their permanent place of residence is Goleniow near Szczecin.
Names (with variant spellings) for Brother 1: 1) Tomasza Zimnickiego 2) Tomek Zimnicki 3) Tomasz Zimnicki 4) Satrugna 5) Tom
Public Profile For Tomek Zimnicki: CLICK HERE TO VIEW PROFILE: On this public profile (written in Polish), Tomek Zimnicki talked about how he studied meditation under Conny Larsson. Clearly, Zimnicki and Larsson were friends. On the profile page, I provided a link to a Polish-to-English Translator. Zimnicki also claimed to be a therapist and a teacher of meditation. Zimnicki's profile shows that he is telling the truth about knowing Conny Larsson very well and lends credence to the claims that Larsson offered them money to make up stories against Sathya Sai Baba.
Names (with variant spellings) for Brother 2: 1) Sebastian Zimnickiego 2) Sebastian Zimnicki 3) Lakshmana 4) Sahadeva 5) swami_rama 6) Ramana
Country: Poland
Websites: 1) http://www.saibaba.w.pl (no longer online) 2) http://www.sathya-saibaba.pl (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana") 3) http://www.swami-nagananda.republika.pl (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana") 4) http://www.sri-ramana-maharishi.republika.pl/ (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana")
Emails: 1) satrugna@sathya-saibaba.pl 2) fundacja-dzieciom@go2.pl 3) ramana@o2.pl 4) ushersun@go2.pl 5) satrugna@o2.pl 6) sahadeva@o2.pl 7) biala@radiopodlasie.pl (updated- Jan 17 '06) 8) tomasz@aiesec.torun.pl (updated- Jan 17 '06) 9) tomasz.zimnicki@akonet.pl (updated- Jan 17 '06) 10) tomasz_zimnicki@o2.pl (updated- Jan 17 '06) 11) pandavas@o2.pl (updated- Jan 17 '05) 12) lakszmana@o2.pl (updated - Feb 18 '06)
Contact on these pages for "ramana@o2.pl": 1) http://www.sathya-saibaba.pl/kontakt.html (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana") 2) www.swami-nagananda.republika.pl/kontakt.html (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana") 3) http://www.sri-ramana-maharishi.republika.pl/kontakt.html (deleted within one week of emailing "Ramana")
Consequently, the Zimnicki Twin, whom made Anti-Sai statements on ExBaba.com's guestbook, is now making claims against Conny Larsson. Furthermore, the ExBaba site put up a new flash guestbook that was signed by a person using the name "Richman". The IP recorded with this entry was: 83.22.146.154 (the very same IP used by "Ramana"). After I sent "Ramana" an email, confronting him with these facts, he stopped emailing me.
Up until October 10th 2005, the Zimnicki Twins's website, at www.sathya-saibaba.pl, had a picture of Sathya Sai Baba on the main index page (meaning that they were Pro-Sai at that time). All of the Zimnicki webpages were deleted within one week of confronting "Ramana". Zimnicki's email leaves one with the distinct feeling that Conny Larsson may have funded (and may be funding) Anti-Sai Activity. Indeed, a very disturbing possibility considering that Larsson is a self-professed multi-millionaire (Reference). |